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Off and on I hear about our favorite anti-free speech, pro-censorship feminist group Equality Now attempting to do away with all sorts of things they arbitrarily deem offensive, all around the world. I don’t claim to have my thumb on the pulse of events, and most certainly I don’t have any sort of reputable information to present, but this is what I’ve heard:

First, we know that they forced japan to essentially fuck themselves in the ass. Well, the Japanese fucked themselves in the ass, because they bent over for the giant gaijin penis. err, vagina. Whatever. The Japanese should have told the histrionic feminist group to get fucked, get back to the kitchen, and then slapped them in the face with their constitutional rights. To climb on a moral LAWFUL GOOD soapbox here, it doesn’t matter if I find rape games to be disgusting or reprehensible, the constitutional law says they can be made and sold to the adults that want them and that right cannot be infringed upon. Period. Equality Now should have been told to fuck off.

Secondly, and apparently most recently, (no verifiable sources on this one, sorry) Equality Now has decided that what they’ve done simply is not enough. “Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned. Rapelay was withdrawn from sale, the EOCS banned all fetishes, and some companies have banned foreigners from their websites. This is not enough. The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal. The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.” Of course, they also say, “Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.” which opens up a whole different direction of irrationality and misandric terrorism. I can see it now: “he raped me.” “no, it was consensual.” “I don’t have to say no, fight back, disagree, or otherwise express an unwillingness to have sex, I can simply decide that it was rape and it is so.”

Let’s sort of set that to the side here for a brief bit. One thing I can’t help but do is draw a parallel between this… ridiculous campaign and jack Thompson’s equally ridiculous campaign against violence in video games. Same medium of entertainment, same question of artistic expression, etc. But I will show you a couple of things I’ve picked up in my travels through the internet and I’d like to ask you to consider a few things.
First, rape has gone down since the early nineties.(Source) This roughly coincides with the increase of VCRs and VHS distribution of porn. There’s no direct correlation that says that as sales of porn videos have gone up, rape has gone down, but it’s damn suggestive.

Second, Violent crime has also gone down since the early nineties (Source) which again also roughly coincides with a larger market penetration of ‘violent’ console and PC games. Again, no direct correlation between violent crimes and violent games here, but as I said before, it’s suggestive.

So, putting two and two together, we can see the direction Equality Now is taking is a bad one. However, the Japanese have a bit of a passive-aggressive inferiority complex, which means that if a vocal histrionic and irrational minority like EN says something should be banned, they will willingly and happily legislate it out of existence without so much as a whimper of resistance- and then they’ll angrily mutter under their breaths about how it’s EN’s THE FILTHY GAIJIN’S fault. Simply put: Equality Now is a bunch of fucked-up and histrionic cunts, and the Japanese are servile spineless fags. What a great combination.

Nestor Adult Games, Anime, Dissertation, Games, Japanese Games, Rant, Sociology

Twenty-five years ago, if I had been asked about romance, I probably would have replied “That’s icky stuff, girls are gross.” Twenty years ago, I would have said, “cards, candy, flowers” …essentially the staples of any Valentine’s Day.Fifteen years ago, I would have said the previous, but added in secluded dinners for two, fireplaces, getaways, etc.

When you get older you understand it’s not just a matter of giving of material gifts, but it’s also to a certain extent ‘being thoughtful’ and paying attention to the complex, bizarre, mostly contradictory and irrational wants and desires of your partner. And then satisfying those desires with material objects and emotional validation. Women need to be reassured that they’re still attractive. Women need to be reassured that they’re still sexy. Women need to be reassured that they’re still appreciated. Women need to be reassured that they’re still women.

You see it all in contemporary television, and if you look at it with a scrutinizing eye, you see the ever-popular scene: man forgets anniversary or birthday or valentines day or whatever, and becomes a nervous wreck buying a last-minute present that he hopes will appease the woman. Maybe my chauvinism is showing a little, but I can see that scene in dozens of different dramas and sitcoms and errata- women are being programmed to expect unnecessary amounts of gifts. Women are idols that must be sacrificed unto. Men are stupid, bumbling idiots that have to be reminded of their place: which is to say sacrificing hard-earned money and groveling at the feet of the woman in the hopes that she deigns to grant him the use of her vagina.

There are solutions, though. By not buying into the shallow, materialistic ideas of romance perpetuated by the misandric feminist movement, by not collapsing into complacency and pursuing your girl consistently, by consistently providing attention, affection and appreciation, you can avoid emasculating yourself (and your wallet) for the sake of the almighty vagina. Alternatively, the Japanese have come up with a unique solution: simply abandoning women in totality.

The guru of the 2-D love movement, Toru Honda, a 40-year-old man with a boyishly round face and puppy-dog eyes, has written half a dozen books advocating the 2-D lifestyle. A few years ago, Honda, a college dropout who worked a succession of jobs at video-game companies, began to use the Internet to urge otaku to stand with pride against good-looking men and women. His site generated enough buzz to earn him a publishing contract, and in 2005 he released a book condemning what he calls “romantic capitalism.” Honda argues that romance was marketed so excessively through B-movies, soap operas and novels during Japan’s economic bubble of the ’80s that it has become a commodity and its true value has been lost; romance is so tainted with social constructs that it can be bought by only good looks and money. According to Honda, somewhere along the way, decent men like himself lost interest in the notion entirely and turned to 2-D. “Pure love is completely gone in the real world,” Honda wrote. “As long as you train your imagination, a 2-D relationship is much more passionate than a 3-D one.” Honda insists that he’s advocating not prurience but a whole new kind of romance. If, as some researchers suggest, romantic love can be broken down into electrical impulses in the brain, then why not train the mind to simulate those signals while looking at an inanimate character?

Nestor Dissertation, Rant, Sociology

When Tinfoil mentioned that he was looking for QC’ers for the Chaos;head RC2 patch, I went ahead and jumped on it. hanging out with them on their irc channel and listening to them talk about various problems and searching for workarounds, it really helps cement in your mind tha tthis isn’t as loose and as disorganized as many people seem to believe.

Some time ago, someone affiliated with a game translation group mentioned that wiki-driven and community-driven projects were doomed to failure, and that only dedicated groups with staff would be able to turn out any sort of … product. He went on to castigate everyone at TLWiki, wretched hive of scum and villainy, so on and so forth. Now, admittedly, I haven’t spent but one day with TLWiki, but there doesn’t seem to be the sort of disorganization, chaos, or what-have-you that he predicted.

Anyway, getting back to the central part, I’m QC’ing the RC2 with the expectation that I’ll be grammar-nazi-ing the text. this means I’ll be playing through it again, something I’ve been hesitant about doing. To be frank, I’ve been hesitant about playing any game, I’ve reached a point where a sabbatical is necessary. I love the game though, and I want to help, so it’s time I leave Elba and get back into it. I can only hope that I don’t end up returning to St. Helena to complete my exile, hahaha.

Coming back to the ren’ai/ visual novel/ eroge genre, the big thing that’s on the lips and hearts of the entire community is the rather … dramatic actions that have been going down. I can’t summarize very well- No, I can, but this sums it up succinctly, taken from sankaku complex.

An Irish rag on a slow news day picks up the story that importers have been selling Rapelay via Amazon. The theme is that the game encourages rape and is child pornography.

Amazon completely drops the product, including in Japan. Other retailers soon follow suit.

Feminist busybody group “Equality Now”, which organises spam campaigns to keep its members busy without actually having to deal with problems directly, targets the game, accusing it of human rights violations and telling the Japanese government it should be banning this sort of thing, like low crime paradises such as the UK.

The developers tell the foreign feminists to get lost.

Soon after the Rapelay developers cave in and completely remove the game from distribution.

Equality Now’s Japanese lawyer (the group has no presence in Japan) drums up anti-eroge media attention.

A Japanese diet member, an avowed feminist, picks up on the scandal and starts calling for a ban. Objections start with the opposition and minor parties and soon the ruling party jumps onto the bandwagon.

A “study group” is organised to decide how best to ban the games.

Broadcaster TBS falsely reports that the EOCS has banned the games.

The EOCS bans the games.

Personally, I think it’s a bunch of bullshit from a bunch of histrionic women that have nothing better to do than meddle in other peoples’ lives. I have low opinions of feminists as it is: a vocal group of women looking to work at cross-purposes to any other suggestion excepting their own agenda, namely that of the bitterly vengeful subjugation of the evil opressive patriarchy. A shame they can’t channel that energy towards more positive, constructive pursuits- after all, that sammich won’t make itself.

Getting back to it, though, my view is this: a woman in britainland arbitrarily decides that a fictitious game is the root of all evil, and campaigns for its removal. Any sane society would have told ‘Equality Now’ to get fucked. I’d like to point out the rough parallel Jack Thompson made with his (equally ridiculous) hate-parades on violent video games being the source of all the world’s sores. Unfortunately, Eroge makers have pretended to be good little dead goldfish and have shown their bellies, resulting in regulation and censorship on more or less, an unregulated industry. Now where will I find a game that lets me whip a pooping catgirl? Without caving to hysteria or running off the deep end, this sort of sets a dangerous precedent. After all, we’re talking about the censorship of fiction and fantasy. This is something to be concerned with.

The result of this censorship has been less than stellar. A few companies have started blocking non-japanese IP addresses. This is the wrong thing to do. It was japanese legislation, it was japanese politics, it was japanese corporate interest that censored them- however foreign fans feel the brunt. The Japanese should have told Equality Now to get fucked, get back to the kitchen, and then slapped them in the face with their right to freedom of speech. Foreign fans should not be punished because of local ineptitude. Instead, we get xenophobic statements like

Some foreigners seem to be having an antipathy against EROGE.
Therefore, We prohibited the access from foreign countries, to defend our culture.

And let’s not forget,

PLEASE PLAY THE GAME OF YOUR COUNTRY IF YOU PRAY FOR THE WORLD PEACE!:-)?

So the conclusion that can be drawn from this is… Gobots suck.

Nestor Adult Games, Dissertation, Games, Japanese Games, Rant, Sociology

I propose that irregardless of the physical existence of the individual, a societal existence is wholly reliant upon societal recognizance. To wit, if no one in your society knows of your existence, you don’t exist. The society typically has measures in place: citizenship, birth certificates, census, taxes and tributes, educational and employment records, marriage records, and death certificates and notifications. Identity is clearly and obviously established only through societal recognition, irregardless of your own individual accomplishments. Who would acknowledge your society-given rights if you had none of the aforementioned documentation? There is at no point in your involvement with the society when there isn’t a clear and obvious placement within the society, so therefore, the society creates recognition and acknowledgement, bringing us full circle: the society creates your existience.

“Laws come from people when the need arise(s)” And this is true. Refer back to my earlier statement: “Organization of a society means rules.” The individual in any given society has a vested interest in said society, but there exists a need for rules and regulations that establishes a clear-cut delineation between what is good for the society and what poses a detriment to said society. To wit: killing another member of the society threatens the existence of said society, therefore it should not be sanctioned.

From this we can derive several things: Firstly, the individual (further termed citizen, for brevity)  that has a vested interest in the survival of the society would be appropriate in creating and enforcing the jurisdiction of the society’s influence. To wit: If you contribute to the society through service, deed, donation, or merit, then you have the right to propose laws.

Secondly, the aforementioned citizen has the right and responsibility to enforce the laws through corrective action and the propagation of information. To wit: reporting a crime, and educating your offspring on what constitutes a crime and why they should avoid such activities.

Finally, the citizen also has the right and responsibility to dispose of laws. Rulings that are outmoded, contradictory, or destabilize the society should be corrected and resubmitted or removed outright.

In conclusion the valuation of a citizen is the ability to propose how they should be governed, enforce that government, and change or nullify the governing of the society in order to protect and ensure the survivability of the society.

Going forward, we’ve determined that a citizen is a valued member of the society he inhabits because he contributes to its well-being. Therefore the question “Does man exist to serve society, or does society exist to serve man?” is rendered almost meaningless; the symbiotic nature of the citizen and his society answers the question clearly. The man protects and provides for the continued well-being of the society he inhabits and in turn the society protects and provides for the well being of the citizen. The caveat being that the society is much larger than the individual and thus ultimately more important than the individual.

To be continued in Part Three: The Society

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“That’s one of the things that’s always fascinated me. The Question, “Why are we here? What’s our reason for being?”.” –Douglas McBride

For starters, humans are animals. Awesomely sophisticated animals, but animals nonetheless. Therefore our reason for being would be to live in the world and to reproduce; the same as any other animal. We eat, sleep, hump and shit the same as every other animal, therefore on an animalistic level; we are fulfilling our responsibilities and obligations as animals, in the animal kingdom.

Moving up to the next rung, we come to Intelligent Animals. While this is more hazy, I believe that as an intelligent animal, our responsibilities also include the accumulation and propagation of knowledge, information, intelligence. For the most part we follow this concept. It’s been proven that each generation is successively smarter than the previous. It’s essential for us to do this for us, in fact, because we have abdicated natural evolution in favor of technological evolution. Rather than growing thicker pelts, sharper claws and teeth, stronger legs, we instead arrest the process by inventing clothing, eating utensils, and all manner of transportation. This provokes a differing form of evolution, though. Our lifespans are longer, our braincases are larger, we retain more information. To better propagate knowledge and intelligence, it must be shared. It’s the same reason most animals reproduce: survivability. If you teach someone to fish, the knowledge of how to fish is passed on- you can die, knowing that someone else knows how to fish. They can in turn pass on that information. Thus we add another rung to the ladder of existence: organized society.

A society that is led and directed can organize and disburse information, knowledge that is vital to the survival of the society. As an example, if you were to decide to create a society that existed in the arctic, it would behoove you to tell your constituents to dress warmly, else wise survivability would be impossible.

Organization of a society means rules. Codes of conduct. Laws, codes of conduct, mores, values, theologies and history help establish a functional society, providing a skeleton that supports the creature that is society. A society without ordered structure is anarchistic and will eventually consume itself.

Setting aside such abstract concepts as theologic and philosophic ideologies, we come to the point: What is our purpose? Our “Raison d’être”, so to speak? Strictly speaking from a societal sense, our reason for existence falls within several categories simultaneously.

First, we must fulfill our animalistic responsibilities. We must birth, grow, develop, reproduce, and die.

Second, as intelligent animals, we must learn and in turn teach to propagate our knowledge.

Finally, as members of society, we must contribute to the society’s survival, we must protect the society’s welfare, we must learn the society’s values and knowledge, and promote these things to our offspring.

To contribute to the society’s survival, we have jobs to fulfill, roles to perform, responsibilities to embrace. To protect the society’s welfare, we must be concerned with the growth and development of the society as well as be aware of external influences that affect the society’s internal functions. The valuation of the society’s beliefs and passing them on to the next generation ensures the survival of the society with the next generation.

In discussing the structure of society and the nature of society, one must consider the existence of one who is a part of the society; that’s for Part Two: The Citizen.

(Special thanks, respect, and other such awesomeness go out to OLF, i.e. Olf Le Fol, for his help with Part Two: The Citizen and Part Three: The Society)

Nestor Dissertation, Sociology

The line went something like,
“Why is it that a weaker person has to attach themselves to someone stronger?” And the question (while rude) for just a moment, crystalized for me. okay, well, to be honest, it’s actually been on my mind for a while, let’s not hedge our bets, i mean, come on, this is me. I’m not talking about the deference that comes from a Dom/ sup relationship, I’m talking about the … fuck-stupid and godawful parasites you see schmoozing up to anything that seems remotely stronger than them.

You know what? I’m going to post portions of a debate I had with someone.

Mr Insensitive (we’ll call him Nestor, for the sake of argument) likes things to go His Way. To any other person, his motivations might be completely incomprehensible, but for the most part, it really boils down to he likes things to go His Way. To that end, he pursues education, employment, and sociological interactions that all ultimately benefit no one else but him. When he meets someone else, his initial priority is to determine whether this person is a friend, an ally, someone who can ultimately assist him on his walk through life; or instead someone to (at best) ignore or (at worst) actively pursue complete and utter subjugation or physical/ psychological destruction. He’s not necessarily an evil or bad person, but his priority is to himself and his successes and adventures in life. Along the way he has friends, enemies, and whatever. Hi-jinks ensue.

Along the way he meets Mr Nice. (we’ll call him Spineless Bob for the sake of argument) Spineless Bob has gone through his life, effectively at the mercy of other people. for some reason, he feels that he needs to be completely selfless, to the point of ego-abdication. Because he has no central core of independent thought, no spine that can hold and support him, he has to mold himself to suit other people’s needs. Molding himself to suit other people carries a burden, though. He has to cling to them to get a shape, to become a complementary piece. So he’ll wander through his life, clinging to people he feels can give him a shape, a definition of self. All the while he tells himself he’s helping them, while in fact he’s simply leeching off them for a sense of identity. A shapeless, sycophantic leech of a man. He’s a “good Guy” because he gives and gives and gives, but at the same time, there’s a growing resentment within him. Can’t anyone see the amount of effort it’s taken him to give to everyone else? Can’t anyone see/ acknowledge his suffering? The sacrifices he’s made to be what he things people expect of him? “Goddammit, people need to wake the fuck up and see how fucking awesome I really am! I’m like… Yes. I can authoritatively say, I am the New Messiah for the Twenty First Century. I care for these worthless shits, even if they don’t deserve it.” Now, rather than actually benefit himself or his fellow man, what he’s done at this point is he’s latched onto The Stick of Self-Righteousness and jammed it up his ass.

So now if anyone wants help from Stick-ass Bob, they’ve got to run a gauntlet of bitterness, resentment, self-loathing, and unresolved teenage angst. that Stick up his ass hurts, but at least people don’t fucking walk on him now, do they? Now he can afford to help them… but only if they can survive the gauntlet.

Suddenly, the two of them meet. Nestor, meet Stick-ass. Stick-ass, meet Nestor.

Nestor’s first priority: Ally or enemy? The guy’s emotionally unstable, socially retarded, and incapable of interacting with the opposite sex with any degree of success. This guy is a problem. Self-righteous and sycophantic at the same time, desperately hoping, not only for attention, but acceptance and adulation.

This person is a danger. Instead of being capable of assisting Nestor on his walk through life (that’s what friends do, they watch your back, make your days pleasant, and help you when you’re struggling) this person would instead hinder him. So he tells Stick-ass to fuck off in no uncertain terms. He wants to keep a buffer of distance between himself and this odoriferous human waste that’s seeped in.

Stickass hates and loves Nestor, because he sees Nestor’s independence, self-assuredness, self-confidence, competence, and individual clarity of thought, and feels that sinking feeling in his gut. He is simultaneously the best and worst thing he’s wanted in his own life. He loves those things in Nestor’s character, but hates them as well because, after all, he’s sacrificed so much for ther people, right? He’s far more deserving of Nestor’s success, girlfriends, money, and popularity than Nestor is, right? Wrong.

So, there they are, face to face, a button between them.

“This button will remove the selfish and ultimately useless people in this room. When I hit this button, the person that has caused the most unhappiness in the world will disappear without a trace. In fact, it’d be like he never existed in the first place.

So now I ask you. Who disappears?

To which he replied,

Molding himself to suit other people carries a burden, though. He has to cling to them to get a shape, to become a complementary piece. So he’ll wander through his life, clinging to people he feels can give him a shape, a definition of self. All the while he tells himself he’s helping them, while in fact he’s simply leeching off them for a sense of identity.

Okay, that’s selfish. But if someone’s form of selfishness is helping people, then that’s not a shabby display of selfishness, I’d say. I think Bob’d help far more people than Nestor ever would. Nestor basically uses people as tools, and doesn’t care about them very much. Bob does care about people, and unconsciously uses them as tools by helping as many people as he can. Nestor’s obviously showing a far larger display of selfishness here.

(This went on for a while)
My response:
You assume that selfish = bad. You assume wrong. When you go to school, you go so that you can get a diploma. No ‘ifs’, or ‘buts’ about it. After High School, there’s College. You don’t go for little 12 year old Billy, you go to get a degree. Not for Sisterfucking Jimbo down the hall from you, but you. You want the degree, you put in the time and effort, you buy the books, you sacrifice time, effort, money, friends, and Life Experiences so that you can get the degree and hang it up on your wall.

You get a job so that you can take care of your bills. So that you can buy food. So that you can pay your phone, your cable, your MMO, your fucking video game systems, and pay off the family down the street to keep from going to the police after you accidentally sleep with their 12 year old daughter.

None of these things is selfish. You’re putting forth effort to (at least) break even. The better career you get, the more you can afford to get ahead.

Lessee… Work, School, friends… Ah. Friends. You pick the people you hang out with, because you don’t want some cockshit fucktube stealing your shit, fucking your girlfriend, breaking into your house, your parents’ house, or anyone’s house, for that matter. You say, “This person and I get along. I’m going to make an investment into interacting with this person above others because we have like-minded interests and I don’t with say, Jimbo Sisterfucker down the hall from me.”

Still not being selfish.

Sycophantic behavior is incredibly selfish, because it does not reward anyone but the person exhibiting said behavior. Clinging to people to form a shape, to define ones’ self, is only beneficial to the one being molded, not the one he is molding to. in addition, it burdens everyone around the person that has been adhered to, as they no longer have any capability for independent action, seeing as there’s a very large, yet shapeless mass entangling them, restricting their ability to move.

So we can derive the following values from said example: Heavy, incapacitating things drag down the individual. This incapacitation can inconvenience other people who also have a certain reliance upon that person. So the one being adhered to cannot function in society (work, home, out with friends, etc) as well as they should be capable of, simply because they’ve got something preventing them. I.E. Spineless Bob. Therefore, in conclusion, a self-sufficient and determined individual will never equate the same level of societal damage that a sycophantic, needy, and spineless dependent like Bob causes.

It went on and on, until this guy popped out with,

If someone is doing a mean thing, but they THINK they’re doing a nice thing, does that make them a mean person? No, just misguided.

To which I responded with this quote from Chris Blake:

I’m holding in my hand a 1976 press kit containing newspaper clippings, photos, and testimonials from a remarkable church, one of the largest Protestant churches in the United States. This Interracial urban church carried on an extensive ministry of impressive humanitarian aid. It had already rehabilitated more than two hundred people from drug habits, and financed the education of more than a hundred students in medicine, law, teaching, and other human service fields, and many students lived in dormitories provided by the church. Moreover, the church provided care in its own facilities for senior citizens, medical convalescents, orphans, and disabled children. Several clippings included testimonials from the president of the National Newspaper Publishers Association, Congressional Record, San Fransisco Chronicle, Washington Post and a former CBS-TV affiliate News Bureau Chief, who after working on a Documentary on the church had been so touched by the “magnificent example” of the pastor in working to “stand courageously against all forms of injustice, to relieve human suffering of every kind, and to establish brotherhood among peoples of wide-ranging backgrounds” that the bureau chief had quit his job at CBS to work full time for the church. Never have I seen such a more impressive church press kit. (To be fair, not many churches have a press kit.)

The pastor was a member of a 1.4 million member Christian denomination, and by 1976 had been pastoring twenty five years. He had also served as a public school teacher and for two full years as a foreign missionary, establishing programs for orphans. More recently he had begun a foreign agricultural mission on thousands of acres to produce food for distribution to critical hunger regions. He had recieved numerous awards, including one from the Los Angeles Herald for “Humanitarian of the Year”. In 1976 he was appointed chair of the San Fransisco Housing Authority. With his wife, he had adopted at least nine impoverished children of different racial backgrounds. They lived next to one of the churches large animal refuge centers, where they took in and cared for sick and abandoned animals.

You’ve probably head of the People’s Temple Christian Church. Rev Jim Jones, Pastor.

As an addendum, I added,

Don’t give me shallow, dogmatic crap about how those people who do evil with the best of intentions aren’t ‘mean’. Even the most sinister of people have the ‘best intentions’ at heart, and that’s what makes it so sad- there IS no true good or evil, only snotnosed peckerwoods like yourself who believe something is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ based on some cobbled together dogma stemming from badly interpreted scripture and Disney. I’ve read published journals of oven operators in Auschwitz who actually felt that they were benefiting the whole world with the ritual and systematic extermination of the jews in Germany. Seriously dude. You’ve (still) got no relevant high ground to stand on.

You’d think that in the face of my debate he’d cave like a house of cards, but this debate spanned months, leading to it’s dramatic conclusion:

And the cream of the crop is that Nestor idiot. Check this out. He’s stated that nothing gives him more pleasure than hurting other people. HE’S A SICK SADISTIC PSYCHOPATH. This guy is screwed in the head. He is evil – literally evil. You hear that word said a lot for funny or dramatic reasons, but I am dead fucking serious here. Nestor is evil and does not dreserve to draw breath. Just start asking him questions about morality and whatnot, you’ll see how deep the rabbit hole goes. He’s not just a poster whose funny gimmick is to act like he’s an asshole, this guy truly is one mentally fucked-up psycho.

In conclusion, I like to debate, I’m a A SICK SADISTIC PSYCHOPATH, and being spineless rules.

Nestor Dissertation, Imported piece, Quick Post, Rant, Sociology

Yes. The desire to protect something… is at the same time none other than the wish for something to violate it. -Nasu-

I like this sentiment, because it also describes the selfsame contradictions in religion. See, God is “good”. We don’t know that he is “Good” until there’s something “Bad” to compare him against. Therefore “God’s” righteousness is merely capitalizing on the human need for dichotomy and the intentional creation of an agent that would act as his negative number thus providing the choice.

To break it down simply, You want shoes to protect your feet. This also means you want to walk where your feet would otherwise be damaged without the protection afforded by those shoes.

To wish to be a hero is to wish for a villian to oppose you.

While we’re on the subject of Nasu, Heaven’s Feel is very near completion. And aassuming there isn’t a SSSSSSHHHHITSTOOOOOORM!!! around the deployment (in before the capabilities of the installer) I’ll be able to play through Sakura’s route by September.

UNG

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Aspergers Syndrome is nothing more than a ‘disease’ that’s been created to define the degradation of societal structures. Fifty years ago, we didn’t have kids with ADD, ADHD, bipolar, depressives, manic depressives, and all sorts of other wacky, kooky, easily solvable ‘social problems’. My own hypothesis is that these are symptoms of a larger societal issue, the manifestations of sociological decay. I can’t even care. to me it’s a fanciful and imaginative excuse to define subculture laziness and parental irresponsibility without actually laying blame. So sit back, jerk off into your sister’s cereal, and keep entertaining me with these whimsical manifestations of stupidity.

“But Nestor! You’ll never know what it’s like!”

I don’t give enough jack to give a fuck. Guess what I fucking did when I was unliked in junior high? I didn’t go fucking begging for medication, attention, and approval from complete fucking strangers (lol intartubes?) I fucking dealt with it and fucking GOT ON WITH MY DAY. I didn’t go around bitchwhoring myself for attention. If I can grow up without guiding parental influences and come out all right, then by fucking satan’s flaming asshole, so can you. Stop being the fucking bleeding fuck tampons and remember where your fucking balls are.

Shut the fuck up and get on with your lives. No one cares about you or your fucking feelings.

Nestor Dissertation, Imported piece, Rant, Sociology

“Dear Nestor,
I hate you.
Love, The World.”

“Dear World,
Choke on my boner.
Nestor”

You sycophantic parasites are symbiotically feeding off each others’ shit and it makes me fucking sick to exist cheek-by-jowl with shit like you. You make travesties and horrors the evening news and force us to gargle it all down like some minty fresh cocktail- I can remember throwing up, over and over again when I was seven years old, after watching the Challenger space shuttle blow up, over and over and over again on the nightly news. How many fucking weeks did we shovel gob after gob of fucking Columbine, watching the fucking kids jump out of fucking windows because they were so fucking terrified? 9-11?
Fuck you, I hate you, I hate what you’re doing to the human race. You vote in preassembled and mass-produced politicians, it doesn’t matter if it’s democrat or republican or even the Flying Purple People Eater Party, you’re still getting your ass ripped while the waxy, chemical smell of vaseline seeps from his plastic lips and glad-hand. You use stupid fucking slogans like “Vote for a Better Tomorrow” and have the temerity to bitch about today, when you should be doing something now. Tweenty fucking years ago you told my bright-eyed and hope-filled generation that we would control the world and we had a duty to fix it from the previous generations’ fuckups, but we’re just as fucking powerless now as you were then because you dumbfuck cockshits keep doing the same shit, day in and day out. How many times did you vote for TV, unreal reality shows that show just how fucking depraved and disgusting humanity is, when your own shit lives were equally fucking shambles? Voting for plastic breasts and vicadin, child-molesting popstars and ritalin, voting for Dr. Phil and Montel, instead of fucking solving the goddamn problems.

What sickens me more than you are your vacant eyed and slack-jawed children, pumped full of meds and told they’ve got a bunch of (perfectly solvable) mental problems, justifying shitting all over the place when they don’t get what they want. When Little Johnny fucking shoots up a goddamn store, instead of saying “Where were the fucking parents” we yell “Violent Video games are the cause!” No. It’s because Mommy and Daddy were jerking themselves off to another shitty fucking episode of Survivor and couldn’t be fucking arsed to tell Little Johnny that fucking little girls in the eyesockets is fucking wrong. Take fucking responsibility! Take fucking ownership! I hate you all and you’re a sickening disease. Seriously. No lies, no bullshit, no cutting corners: Kill yourselves.

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There are three kinds of people in this world: victims, survivors, and heroes.

Victims are the collective ashtrays and toilets that get shit on. worthless wastes that’d be better off getting killed off by predators. The ones that can’t cope with reality.

Survivors are people who’ve learned to keep their heads down when the shit of the world starts to fly. their creed, motto, slogan and catchphrase is “get through the day”. Better then the semicatatonic ands mildly concussed victims, but not by much, in my opinion. They’re “armchair politicians”, sports coaches, and whatever, sitting on the sidelines and bitching about everything. They bitch that they can’t take calls because there’s no cellphones and then they bitch because cellphones are starting to cause more and more auto accidents every year, they take stands on stupid shit like how chemicals used to treat boats kill snails but can’t figure out why their ten year old daughter is a alcoholic prostitute. they bitch that their food prices are going up and they bitch about genetic modificaztions that increse food production and they bitch that things aren’t fucking perfect and they never lift a fucking finger to do shit.

Heroes take what they fucking want. They grip the world and squeeze the juice down their throats. They’re the fucking players that get up there and fucking raise the bat and drive one out of the fucking park. They stand up and say “no.” without fear of recrimination. They take stands on shit that fucking matters. They get up on national TV and say “You’re a dumbass.” When they work, they work hard. when they play, they play hard. when they rock, they rock hard. They destroy/ climb over/ walk on things that stand between them and their goal, and accept no substitutes. They know when to prefer quantity over quality, and vice versa. They make informed, educated descisions. They don’t fuck around.

Decide for yourself here and now where you stand on the fucking food chain. Are you some goddamned limp-wristed KY-jelly squirting rubberbacked bedpan cleaning Flaccidor, or are you a goddamed Platinum Plated Pecker, firing wad after burning wad of Justice into the eyes and faces of the damned, screaming I GUARANTEE IT!

…christ. I think I’m gonna puke again.

Nestor Dissertation, Imported piece, Quick Post, Rant, Sociology

DRwut actually not really, since even though izumi is gay as hell, being gay as hell still makes him happy
DRwut but is that cause he likes it or because there’s a group of people like him that smile upon that kind of stuff?
UserGoogol I’m really not a big fan of egoism, actually. (More of a utilitarian, although I’m shifting away from that because I think it might not be logically rigorous enough.) But the argument for rational egoism seems sensible enough to me. Things in the outside world only effect you in so far as they effect your mind. Thus, your happiness is something that effects you directly, while other people’s happinesses is more of an indirect thing.
UserGoogol Did that get cut off?
DRwut i never read that
DRwut nestor do you agree with objectivism?
DRwut http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivist_ethics this
TG|Nestor lemme have a looksee
UserGoogol Ayn Rand also sucks for taking the word “objectivist,” which is such a nice word that she had to burden with all the particular aspects of her philosophy.
TG|Nestor Likewise society has heaped negativity and scorn on the word ‘ego’
TG|Nestor you can’t mention that word except in a negative connotation
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DRwut ego should be neutral
TG|Nestor No, ego is the centralizing core of an individual’s existence. it’s his own unique gestalt that differs from everyone elses’
TG|Nestor you cant neutralize something so critical and expect people to be happy.
TG|Nestor you’re stripping individuality for group conformity.
UserGoogol That’s not how the dictionary defines ego.
UserGoogol It’s just… the self.
TG|Nestor my ego is different from yours, UG. Therefore it’s the sole identifying characteristic that makes me Nestor, and you UG
TG|Nestor all things being equal, the Ego is the soul’s fingerprint
TG|Nestor uniquely individual and identifying
DRwut In Freud’s theory, the ego mediates among the id, the super-ego and the external world. Its task is to find a balance between primitive drives, morals, and reality while satisfying the id and superego. Its main concern is with the individual’s safety and allows some of the id’s desires to be expressed, but only when consequences of these actions are marginal. Ego defense mechanisms are often used by the ego when id behavior conflicts wit
DRwut h reality and either society’s morals, norms, and taboos or the individual’s expectations as a result of the internalization of these morals, norms, and taboos.
UserGoogol Ah, that’s something of a distinct concept.
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TG|Nestor Freud was an asshat.
zakenayo oh fuck
MTHoopla @seen Jeffu
Keine-tan MTHoopla: Jeffu was last seen in #forum-m 7 hours, 39 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: Jeffu now to sleep after 20ish hours of going without. x_x
zakenayo the Japanese in “The Prestige” is the WORST I have ever heard
UserGoogol I think he popularized the word though, so linguistically he does have precedent.
UserGoogol I don’t think there’s an ego as you describe it. There’s no fundamental difference between individual selves, the difference is that I’m here and you’re over there and we have different emotions and feelings and personalities and all that stuff.
TG|Nestor that’s like saying that because Metallica has more platinums, they’ve defined the heavy metal music scene
UserGoogol But to say that there’s some fundamental essence sounds like spiritual bullshit.
DRwut UG unless you’re a solipsist
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zakenayo “The Prestige”?
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zakenayo Stormbreaker I meant
UserGoogol wut: Oh yeah sure. If solipsism is true, then the difference is that I’m real and he’s not.
Nestor_sensei haha
Nestor_sensei you’re not real~
Nestor_sensei I am
DRwut No, the difference would be that he’s you just a part of you that you can’t control
UserGoogol I beg to differ.
Nestor_sensei Prove to me you exist, UG
UserGoogol Wut: I suppose that would be the more precise way to put it.
Nestor_sensei carve your name in the universe so that no one, even myself, can ever doubt you didn’t exist.
UserGoogol Nestor: I can’t, but why would I want to, figment of my imagination?
DRwut “Metaphysical solipsism is the variety of idealism which maintains that the individual self of the solipsistic philosopher is the whole of reality and that the external world and other persons are representations of that self having no independent existence (Wood, p. 295). More tersely, if more vaguely, it is expressed by the assertion “I myself only exist”, in other words, it is the doctrine that no reality exists other than one’s self”
Nestor_sensei ohohoho~
Nestor_sensei but by buying into solipsism, you buy into the intrinsic value of the human self, the identifying ego component that seperates you from the whole of the world and sets you up as the sinle most important existence in the universe.
Nestor_sensei *single
UserGoogol What?
Nestor_sensei Just that.
Nestor_sensei As a solipsist, you say that everything around you essentially existys because you will it
DRwut or that everything around you is you
Nestor_sensei certainly an interesting divergence from societal ideologies, but not necessarily healthy.
UserGoogol What exactly do you mean by ego?
DRwut A solipsist may also understand that everything being a part of himself would also mean that harming anything would be harming himself with associated negative consequences such as pain. Or a solipsist might say that harming others is imprudent because the solipsist can only be uncertain of their real existence.
Nestor_sensei I recall reading something about… twelve? thirteen? years ago, where psychologists attributed sociopathic behavior to solipsism; in that the sociopath feels nothing in killing a member of society, because he is the final arbiter of his own existence
DRwut ” ”
UserGoogol Nestor: That would make sense, yeah.
Nestor_sensei So you’re crazy~
Nestor_sensei
DRwut “Everything and everyone else is just a figment of imagination, so there’s no particular reason not to make these figments disappear by, say, mass annihilation. The subconscious mind could always imagine them back to life, if that’s what’s really wanted, anyway.”
UserGoogol Well I’m not really a solipsist. It can’t be disproven but it also can’t be proved, and acting as if there is an external reality seems to be more pragmatic.
Nestor_sensei we’ve diverged from the original topic of society versus the individual
UserGoogol In a sense, the difference between solipsism and non-solipsism is just a linguistic difference.
UserGoogol We sure as hell have.
DRwut I blame UG
Nestor_sensei One of the larger questions Olf and I have discussed that relate to this is whether the value of a human being outside of society actually exists.
UserGoogol You were the one who brought up solipsism, wut.
DRwut let’s not point fingers
Nestor_sensei If a society as a whole goes blissfully unawae of a human’s life, can he be said to ‘exist’ to said society?
UserGoogol It depends on exactly what you mean by “exist to said society.”
DRwut that’s true, most people act like a lot of people don’t exist, like their friends, family, and favorite celebrities are the only things that exist
Nestor_sensei simple. If you are completely unaware of a rock twenty miles away, does it exist for you? does it hold relevance?
Nestor_sensei understasnd that there’s a strong difference between physical existence and societal existence
UserGoogol “Societal existance” seems like a concept that really shouldn’t be described using those words.
DRwut if they don’t exist to society then physically they only exist as background
Nestor_sensei certainly, the rock is there (or is it?) in a physical form, but does its ackoledgement (or lack thereof) give it tangibility?
Nestor_sensei *acknowledgement
DRwut why are you arguing anthropic principle
UserGoogol wut: That’s something different.
Nestor_sensei does the individual exist outside of society?
DRwut it’s kind of related
UserGoogol If two systems do not interact, then certainly a person in one system cannot derive value from something in the other system.
Nestor_sensei you might recall a few months ago that there was a huge debate in here with Olf and I pretty much against the rest of the channel because we were debating the existence of humans that existed outside the scope of society
UserGoogol But ehmm… the rock and society do interact, even though they are not aware of it, so things get more complciated.
DRwut society is aware of the rock
DRwut so it exists
Nestor_sensei this woman gave birth to some kids, killed and buried them, and no one knew she’d done these things. Her own husband didn’t even know she’d been pregnant at all.
UserGoogol The word “existance” shoudl probably not be overloaded by using it on concepts like this.
UserGoogol Nestor: The woman is part of society, and she knew about the kids. Although I’ll admit that I’m rather wishy-washy on the morality of infanticide.
UserGoogol For unrelated reasons.
Nestor_sensei So holding her accountable to a ‘crime’ was societally impossible because without the acknowledgement of the infants, they held no verifiable merit.
Nestor_sensei if they weren’t ‘seen’ they weren’t ‘there’
DRwut “There exists one possible thing ‘designed’ with the goal of generating and sustaining ‘observers.’ ”
Nestor_sensei societal laws only exist within the society, though.
UserGoogol Do they?
UserGoogol Well at any rate, the woman was within society, so she should be under its jurisdiction.
Nestor_sensei but the infants weren’t, so did she commit a crime?
DRwut if you can’t see it then you can’t prove it exists
Nestor_sensei crime is dictated by a society.
DRwut socially
Nestor_sensei they existed outside the societal envelope
UserGoogol Yes it is, but I don’t see why just because a crime is dictated by society that something can only be a crime if it harms society.
Nestor_sensei she was the only person in the world that knew of them when they were alive, so therefore she had the ability to arbitrate fate over them
DRwut crimes are dictated by society to protect society, if they’re not in society then the laws aren’t extended to them
Nestor_sensei exactly
Nestor_sensei therefore no crime was committed.
UserGoogol Her society had a rule against baby-killing, she broke that rule. Simple as that. Now, whether baby-killing should be illegal is a different question.
Nestor_sensei What she did was certainly reprehensible, though
DRwut UserGoogol: her society had a rule against killing babies in only her society
UserGoogol Consider a different example. Some space-traveller goes off to a populated planet and nukes the entire thing so that nobody survives. This planet was not known to his homeland, so it was effectively “seperate from society.” But it’s still reasonable for his society to be pissed off at this, because there is value in enforcing a rule against nuking random planets.
Nestor_sensei if she’d killed someone else’s children, for example
DRwut it’s not separate from society because they acknowledge it exists
UserGoogol wut: No, in my thought experiment they don’t know about the planet.
UserGoogol Or wait, are you talking about something else.
Nestor_sensei there are things that exist outside of a society because the zone of perception is able to accept those things as external.
Nestor_sensei Of course, that holds no relevance
Nestor_sensei Well, we can argue that the planet was known, but not known to be inhabited.
Nestor_sensei therefore he’s judged accordingly; I.E. he willfully nuked a planet against societal expectations of nonviolence
Nestor_sensei not for the genocide of an entire world’s peoples
DRwut UG counter example/argument?
UserGoogol I don’t entire understand what Nestor is saying.
DRwut I’m trying to figure out the nonrelevant part
DRwut the rest I understand
Nestor_sensei Let me try and explain.
UserGoogol I don’t. My argument seems fairly clear. Societies make laws because they want their people to act in a particular way. If you don’t act that way, they’ll punish you. It doesn’t matter who you don’t-act-that-way to.
UserGoogol The lines Nestor is making makes no sense.
DRwut ah, even if something is seen as outside society it’s still unacceptable to do them wrong because they’re still in society by way of expectations
Nestor_sensei the society of the US recognizes another society (like russia) not because it holds relevance to their own existence, but because that society falls within the US’s zone of perception.
UserGoogol Another way of putting it, I suppose, is that if an individual is a part of society, then anything that individual interacts with is a part of society by the transititve property.
DRwut I can’t really find a middle between you and nestor
Nestor_sensei removing all interactions, extradtions, and shit like that, unless there is an internal societal law that forbids violence against a nonsocietal, you could go about the business of killing them and not be held responsible. as if you weren’t killing real people
Nestor_sensei wut: we’re having a discussion. just enjoy it
Nestor_sensei
DRwut but most societies laws don’t state “you can only not kill american babies”
UserGoogol Maybe I don’t understand what you mean by the word “society.”
DRwut i think in the baby killing example he just meant people in general
UserGoogol Oh wait, maybe I understand what you’re saying. Is it that “sovereignty” doesn’t extend to dead babies and stuff like that?
DRwut in the baby killing example he meant “the totality of concepts of all purely natural relations and institutions between man and man”
DRwut ?
DRwut or “group of people that form a semi-closed social system, in which most interactions are with other individuals belonging to the group.”?
UserGoogol Well we’ve been talking for two hours, and I should’ve gone to bed one hour ago, so let’s justend that here.

Nestor Imported piece, Objectivism, Quick Post, Rant, Sociology